Next Race: Hungaroring, Hungarian GP (30th July-1st August)

Tricky · 28-07-2010, 08:23 AM

Hungarian Grand Prix

Fri 30 Jul
Practice 1 09:00-10:30
Practice 2 13:00-14:30

Sat 31 Jul
Practice 3 10:00-11:00
Qualifying 13:00

Sun 1 Aug
Race 13:00

Related stuff
Sakon Yamamoto will drive in place of Karun Chandhok for Hispania for the second race in a row as the team rotate their drivers. @BBC

Also see our Flexi-wing discussion here, which I'm sure will be mentioned again next weekend.

Beava · 28-07-2010, 08:55 AM

o **** i work when that race is on i better record it then

netvyper · 28-07-2010, 09:53 AM

Chandhok still not back in the car... thats lame

Senna s1979 · 28-07-2010, 10:01 AM

Money talks.
I dont suppose McLaren will have their own legal Flexi-Wing (copyright RBR

) for this race?
If not will be all down to the Red Bulls and Farrari's again methinks. Lets all hope Massa is leading into the 1st corner

Tricky · 29-07-2010, 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by Senna s1979

I dont suppose McLaren will have their own legal Flexi-Wing (copyright RBR

) for this race?

Nope.

tescoru · 29-07-2010, 07:14 PM

I thought the RBs and FRs also had blown diffusers with redudant ignition for quali meaning even faster times.

Enzo Smithers · 30-07-2010, 08:14 AM

ooh explain that, what is redundant ignition?

Tricky · 30-07-2010, 08:25 AM

Never heard of a redundant ignition but Renault, and Renault-powered cars have some ignition thing they used in qually.

EDIT: done a little searching and found this, titled 'The Secret to Redbulls Q3 pace'.

Quote:

...teams blowing their diffusers rely on the throttle being open to keep airflow passing to the diffuser. Without this airflow, the diffuser loses downforce and the driver suffers a loss of grip or balance just as he enters the corner.

While careful design and how the exhaust is placed in relation to the diffuser, can alleviate some of the problems, any benefit from blowing the aerodynamics will be reduced when the throttle’s closed and no exhaust gasses are flowing.

It’s been reported that Red Bull are following a practice that was used on turbo cars (i.e. the old F1 turbos and WRC cars) to keep the turbo spooled up. By means of retarding the ignition when the driver is on the overrun as he slows for a corner. If Red Bull can keep the flow out of the exhaust pipe relatively constant, even when the throttle is closed going into a turn, then the diffuser will see a more consistent air flow and maintain downforce. Relieving it of the on\off throttle sensitivity so often a criticism of EBD systems. In effect an antilag system is trying to do the same as the Red Bull EBD mapping, maintaining a constant exhaust gas pressure, on or off the throttle.

http://scarbsf1.wordpress.com/
The link above also contains diagrams as to how this works - quite clever really.

P.S. Practice 1 at 9am.

Tricky · 30-07-2010, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by Tricky

P.S. Practice 1 at 9am.

Just watching this, the bending Redbull front wing is pretty obvious. There was also a Front-wing analysis slow-mo replay so expect we'll get more TV coverage of the wing.

Stibz · 30-07-2010, 11:33 AM

Hungary is probably the MOST boring F1 race every season. Normally get Pole and win on this track

it's always one I don't mind missing, watching highlights IF there are any lol

tescoru · 30-07-2010, 11:41 AM

Sorry I think I meant retarding the ignition.

Basically even when lifting the engine is still running and blowing the diffuser. This eats a lot of fuel so it's only used in Quali.

EDIT: What Tricky posted

Senna s1979 · 30-07-2010, 11:51 AM

Clever chunts!

Enzo Smithers · 01-08-2010, 12:50 AM

thats quite an impressive technical feat that like, cheers for the info mate

PzR Woodchip · 01-08-2010, 01:35 PM

Blimey. I'm guessing that the loose Mercedes wheel may have distracted the Renault engineers slightly causing the accident.

Evilpengwinz · 01-08-2010, 01:40 PM

I'm shocked. An interesting Hungarian GP, and there's no rain either!

PzR Woodchip · 01-08-2010, 01:40 PM

And Vettel under investigation for backing the pack up whilst letting Webber run off.

TfR Jimmyskills · 01-08-2010, 01:44 PM

It's in ferraris hands....

PzR Woodchip · 01-08-2010, 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by TfR Jimmyskills

It's in ferraris hands....

I can't believe how much RBR are imploding this season.

SupermanDan01 · 01-08-2010, 01:50 PM

haha anyone see his hand signals going through the pits ?

Jam · 01-08-2010, 01:52 PM

Fernando

Evilpengwinz · 01-08-2010, 01:55 PM

Is it just me, or is Legard being particularly annoying today?

XxLorddalronxX · 01-08-2010, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by Evilpengwinz

Is it just me, or is Legard being particularly annoying today?

Oh big time. Was thinknig about this during the race and saying to myself a bet the guys from the site will be thinking the same

He was missing alot today, mixing up drivers, talking general shi1t and just being his normal, useless self...

XxLorddalronxX · 01-08-2010, 04:31 PM

Looking like a drop of 10 grid places for Schumacher...Baaaad move.

Mylez Rulez · 01-08-2010, 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by XxLorddalronxX

Looking like a drop of 10 grid places for Schumacher...Baaaad move.

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XxLorddalronxX · 01-08-2010, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by Mylez Rulez

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Nearly as dangerous as you on the track?

Mylez Rulez · 01-08-2010, 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by XxLorddalronxX

Nearly as dangerous as you on the track?

not quite....then again im not a stuck up piece of German Sweiser

Tricky · 01-08-2010, 07:24 PM

Originally Posted by Evilpengwinz

Is it just me, or is Legard being particularly annoying today?

We actually switched to the Radio 5 commentary half way through. Legard is so annoying, especially to F1 fans who don't need to be told what they can already see. Even James Allen would be a step up from this.

Originally Posted by XxLorddalronxX

Looking like a drop of 10 grid places for Schumacher...Baaaad move.

Yep, 10 places drop for Spa, probably about right so deter such dangerous driving.

Mercedes got a fine of $50,000 for Rosberg losing his wheel, and the same for Renault who released Kubica into the path of Sutil.

XxLorddalronxX · 02-08-2010, 08:21 PM

An eventful Hungry Grand prix again this year.

What was wrong with Webbers car on the podium. Seen him chatting to the dude with grey hair who is always there and he didnt put his sterring wheel back on???

XxLorddalronxX · 02-08-2010, 08:22 PM

Originally Posted by Tricky

We actually switched to the Radio 5 commentary half way through. Legard is so annoying, especially to F1 fans who don't need to be told what they can already see. Even James Allen would be a step up from this.

Have to say i only stick with BBC cos of Brundle.. Shame we cant get someone else along with him. Legard HAS to go......